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you can tweet us at booktv, comment on our facebook wall or send us an e-mail, booktv, nonfiction books every weekend on c-span2. >> you don't always find newspapers in bracing investigative reporting. the point we have seen over the years is not just economics but the discomfort investors reporting often causes in the newsroom because it is troublesome. more than economics. if you ruffled the feathers of somebody powerful that gets those people running in to complain to the publisher and their stories are legion of the years about those things happening and we are fortunate and almost all our careers to work for people who are strong and the price in that area and that the chips fall where they may. >> pulitzer prize-winning investigative team of james steel and donald barr laws will take your e-mails and tweets on in death. the pair who began a collaborative work and the 70s are the co-authors of eight books, the latest, the betrayal of the american dream. watch live sunday january 6th at noon eastern on booktv on c-span2. >> you are watching the tv on c-span2 and we are at the nation
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thank you for joining us today for "up." join us tomorrow, sunday morning at 8:00. i'll have former new jersey governor jim florio and dean baker from the center for economic and policy research. coming up, melissa harris-perry. reaction to the jaw-dropping nra statement about school shooting in newtown, connecticut. plus controversy about "django's" depiction of slavery. that's coming up next. see you here tomorrow at 8:00. o] playing in the nfl is tough. ♪ doing it with a cold, just not going to happen. vicks dayquil -- powerful non-drowsy 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ no matter what city you're playing tomorrow. [ coughs ] [ male announcer ] you can't let a cold keep you up tonight. ♪ vicks nyquil -- powerful nighttime 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪
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tweet us your feedback. twitter.com/booktv. >> i don't want to spoil the book for you, so that me just say that the year began with the american republic in grave danger. the union armies were struggling to grow virtually overnight from a few thousand men scattered across the continent to more than half a million. the inexperienced officers rushed into command of the ross volunteers were stymied by the sheer size of the breakaway confederate states of america which covered a space larger than the entire european territory conquered by napoleon. lincoln's closest adviser was secretary of state william henry seward. seward said that even they fail to see the difficulty of the union's task cannot apprehending the vast extent of the rebellion as he put it. military operations to be successful must be on a scale hitherto practically unknown in the art of war. >> the second year of the civil war, the strange federal government and we can in forces. 1862 and abraham lincoln's rise to greatness at 830 eastern, part
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joining us is karl harrington. thanks for joining us, carl. how many people are we talking about specifically receiving these types of bonuses. how much money are we talking about? >> context is important here. we are talking about 48,500 workers receiving bonuses between $5,000 and $7,000. now, remember 26% of general motors, about 500 million shares of stock is owned by the united states government which happened as a result of the bailout which the united states taxpayer paid for. so bonuses at the end of the year, i think this is a very sweetheart deal to pay back the unions for their vote for the obama administration. not only are they getting bonuses between $5,000 and $7,000 at the end of the year after being bailed out buss they have no increase in their healthcare cost coverages and their per hourly rated which is approximately $58 per hour is going to stay in tact. this in my opinion is a big sweetheart deal directed by the united states government. >> so the bonus are not performance based or based on seniority. how are they determi
joining us is karl harrington. thanks for joining us, carl. how many people are we talking about specifically receiving these types of bonuses. how much money are we talking about? >> context is important here. we are talking about 48,500 workers receiving bonuses between $5,000 and $7,000. now, remember 26% of general motors, about 500 million shares of stock is owned by the united states government which happened as a result of the bailout which the united states taxpayer paid for. so...
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when times get tough, it rallies us as one. every day, more people believe in the american idea and when they do, the dream comes true. we're grateful to be a part of it. >> jamie: a quick check of your headlines, central pennsylvania, police are trying to figure out why a man went on a fatal shooting rampage along a rural road, and, he was shot dead by police and killed two men and a woman and injured three troopers and north korea's leader is calling for the development of bigger missiles after the nation launched a long range rocket. the first time kim jong-un has publicly called for the advancement of the country's weapons program and pope benedict xvi granted a christmas pardon, remember the former butler accused of stealing an leaking private documents, longing to the pope? he had been serving an 18 month sentence and got pardoned. rick? >> rick: well, as we have told you time is running out for lawmakers to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. congress taking off for their christmas break without striking a deal, leaving t
when times get tough, it rallies us as one. every day, more people believe in the american idea and when they do, the dream comes true. we're grateful to be a part of it. >> jamie: a quick check of your headlines, central pennsylvania, police are trying to figure out why a man went on a fatal shooting rampage along a rural road, and, he was shot dead by police and killed two men and a woman and injured three troopers and north korea's leader is calling for the development of bigger...
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that malls, used at workplaces, use the movie theaters. they allow for death and destruction. it is a distraction from the large ammunition devices that allow shooters to expel 20, 30, 60, 100 and even more bullets. it is a distraction from how easy it is to purchase weapons at gun shows with no background checks at all. the weapons today are much more powerful and lethal and then weapons were when we did this bill in 1993. that is a problem. the time has come to address it. i will not demonize anyone. as i said before, i am willing to talk to anyone and listen to anyone. should we have a conversation about school security? yes. should we have a conversation about mental illness and the culture of violence? yes. but we cannot ignore the common denominator in all of the deadly massacres. easy access to killing machines. sandy hook is only the latest tragedy. more horrendous than anything i thought could happen in the united states of america. these massacres are happening in our shopping malls, our movie theaters, our businesses in our offi
that malls, used at workplaces, use the movie theaters. they allow for death and destruction. it is a distraction from the large ammunition devices that allow shooters to expel 20, 30, 60, 100 and even more bullets. it is a distraction from how easy it is to purchase weapons at gun shows with no background checks at all. the weapons today are much more powerful and lethal and then weapons were when we did this bill in 1993. that is a problem. the time has come to address it. i will not demonize...
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. >> they can keep pushing us and bumping us and moving us back. >> it's the holidays, you want to get home, but at the same time, what are you going to do? >> on this holiday weekend, thousands of flights delayed and we're watching that as the winter stom wallops the midwest and good day to you. i'm richard lui. the stalled fiscal cliff debate and the january deadline now just ten days away. president obama and his family are vacationing in hawaii and congress is on holiday recess after no new breakthrough and both sides are holding out and they'll be able to reach a deal. >> call me a hopeless optimist, but i actually still think we can get it done. >> of course, hope springs eternal and i know we have it in us to come together and to do the right thing. >> nbc's kristin welker is in hawaii and the president is still in talks while he's there or are the the talks on hiatus? >> richard, my sources tell me this is very much a working vacation for president obama and at this time there's no conversation between the president and congressional leaders and that doesn't mean that they're n
. >> they can keep pushing us and bumping us and moving us back. >> it's the holidays, you want to get home, but at the same time, what are you going to do? >> on this holiday weekend, thousands of flights delayed and we're watching that as the winter stom wallops the midwest and good day to you. i'm richard lui. the stalled fiscal cliff debate and the january deadline now just ten days away. president obama and his family are vacationing in hawaii and congress is on holiday...
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i would strongly urge us to use the $480 million being spent on the congo, instead being used to help to people in united states of america who are in need of help, or help reduce the deficit that was testified to be the greatest national security threat to the united states of america. it is a matter of priorities. i appreciate the very noble -- i emphasize the word noble -- effort to help people who are in harm's also way in various parts of the world. my colleague from florida mentioned somalia. certainly in vietnam we tried to do the noble things. we're in a different financial reality. in the absence of a national security interest in the congo, i am afraid that sequestration will force us to retract even though we may wish to the contrary. i yield back the remainder of my time. >> a couple of questions. sequestration is not only obama's, but also our responsibility. i believe we voted for it. >> i did not vote for it. >> we talked about this whole issue. it has been suggested that perhaps -- >> $80 million. is that more or less correct? [indiscernible] >> we will hear that in a
i would strongly urge us to use the $480 million being spent on the congo, instead being used to help to people in united states of america who are in need of help, or help reduce the deficit that was testified to be the greatest national security threat to the united states of america. it is a matter of priorities. i appreciate the very noble -- i emphasize the word noble -- effort to help people who are in harm's also way in various parts of the world. my colleague from florida mentioned...
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hey you know i say if you take a guy who use steroids if he if he used the he would get twenty thirty thirty five which is all this small school and at some point in time most will start hanging. in the causes you know to have a body and historic group take important things down you know i think all my shirt. would move i would get all star rows and you know. i'm forty nine years old my stuff don't jager must have to insert your eye of people. you know about it like a teenager as if the whole thing is because it's easy to maintain the rebuild so you know i try to stay in shape do the very best. many people to me especially journalists say that having a good agent is part of the county good coach you believe that well and and some ways it could be. because you nobs of a good coach his job is to allow you to become this this guy. who can be a market because you have to have both you know is when i look at it when i look at tyson you know i'm good you know here's a guy that had a good coach with a guy a lot of good business people who put him in the position to to overcome the situation
hey you know i say if you take a guy who use steroids if he if he used the he would get twenty thirty thirty five which is all this small school and at some point in time most will start hanging. in the causes you know to have a body and historic group take important things down you know i think all my shirt. would move i would get all star rows and you know. i'm forty nine years old my stuff don't jager must have to insert your eye of people. you know about it like a teenager as if the whole...
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unite us, encourage us, strengthen us, protect us. go with us lord. bless this effort and this city as it under takes it and it's under your great name that we pray. amen. >> thank you all for coming >> my name is phil ginsburg and the general manager of the san francisco parks and rec department and i want to welcome everybody to the 83rd annual holiday tree lighting. happy holidays to you all. this is san francisco's official holiday tree right behind us, uncle john's tree and over 100 years old, and tonight it sports over 550 christmas holiday lights. >> five, four, three, two, one! >> yay! >> i have been a cable car grip for 21 years. i am a third generation. my grand farther and my dad worked over in green division for 27. i guess you could say it's blood. >> come on in. have a seat. hold on. i like it because i am standing up. i am outside without a roof over my head and i see all kinds of people. >> you catch up to people you know from the past. you know. went to school with. people that you work with at other jobs. military or something. kind
unite us, encourage us, strengthen us, protect us. go with us lord. bless this effort and this city as it under takes it and it's under your great name that we pray. amen. >> thank you all for coming >> my name is phil ginsburg and the general manager of the san francisco parks and rec department and i want to welcome everybody to the 83rd annual holiday tree lighting. happy holidays to you all. this is san francisco's official holiday tree right behind us, uncle john's tree and...
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nice to see you and have you with us this morning. is there any better sense on the part of investigators about what was adam lanza thinking? what was going through his mind? >> that's what we would all of course like to know. of course, investigators have been working very hard on all of this nonstop. so far, there is very little indication that he had much of an online presence, for example, did he flag his intentions to anyone online? did he play any online games with anyone? did he tell anyone what he was thinking about? these are the things they're trying to figure out. remember, they're still trying to work very hard to retrieve evidence from that hard drive. fbi working hard at quantico to try to piece that smashed computer back together again, to try to retrieve as much information to find what websites for example he might have visited. what about toxicology tests, what about friends he may have spoken, to given a sense of what he was thinking, his intentions or his plan? as you know since the beginning we've tried to find an
nice to see you and have you with us this morning. is there any better sense on the part of investigators about what was adam lanza thinking? what was going through his mind? >> that's what we would all of course like to know. of course, investigators have been working very hard on all of this nonstop. so far, there is very little indication that he had much of an online presence, for example, did he flag his intentions to anyone online? did he play any online games with anyone? did he...
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as madeleine albright secretary of state under clinton says if the united states use for if we use force it's because we're the united states of america we're the in this principle nation she said we see father and stand taller than other nations that's the attitude that oliver and i are challenging the sense of american exceptionalism united states is the city upon the hill god's gift to humanity if we do it it's right and that's not acceptable it's very early as we go from you know we. we have been the book has been out a few weeks series has been played for the fifth week now and will be ten weeks in all we go to t.v. shows and we sit in these beautiful sets and they're always rushing out rushing the they've got news here they've got news in gaza they've got petraeus they've got obama ok well what are you talking about history you know oh ok well here that's what is i have to do it today but ok what's the point so you sit there very patiently it's very bizarre to be honorable you know but you know well honey the past is prologue you know this is all happened before or you're running a
as madeleine albright secretary of state under clinton says if the united states use for if we use force it's because we're the united states of america we're the in this principle nation she said we see father and stand taller than other nations that's the attitude that oliver and i are challenging the sense of american exceptionalism united states is the city upon the hill god's gift to humanity if we do it it's right and that's not acceptable it's very early as we go from you know we. we...
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really no place to hide some part of us. and it can become oppressive on the surface one of the things we feared after nine eleven it was that if there was a second terrorist attack like nine eleven the constitution would be gone crackdown would be so egregious at that point and there's still this obsessive fear the united states fears things we fear the rest of the world we spend this much money on our military security intelligence as the rest of the world combined you know we have enemies that we really saw threaten to we're going to need this anymore is that what our priorities should be and we think not we want to turn that around in this aeration of the rule of law especially you know most notably the national defense authorization act which eradicates due process and our basic fundamental freedom in this country that. i wanted to also bring up another interesting point that really struck me in the film series which was the kamikaze pilots who you know they were brave they were considered it was the bravest act that yo
really no place to hide some part of us. and it can become oppressive on the surface one of the things we feared after nine eleven it was that if there was a second terrorist attack like nine eleven the constitution would be gone crackdown would be so egregious at that point and there's still this obsessive fear the united states fears things we fear the rest of the world we spend this much money on our military security intelligence as the rest of the world combined you know we have enemies...
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that malls, used at workplaces, use the movie theaters. they allow for death and destruction. it is a distraction from the large ammunition devices that allow shooters to expel 20, 30, 60, 100 and even more bullets. it is a distraction from how easy it is to purchase weapons at gun shows with no background checks at all. checks at all.
that malls, used at workplaces, use the movie theaters. they allow for death and destruction. it is a distraction from the large ammunition devices that allow shooters to expel 20, 30, 60, 100 and even more bullets. it is a distraction from how easy it is to purchase weapons at gun shows with no background checks at all. checks at all.
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try to use the emotion of the nation right now to address it. i will tell you i'm encouraged by some of the pollin i'veeen on this, the american public seems to be taking a very hard look at it you, saying, you what, we should maybe have stricter gun laws but one says only about 28% thought that would have fixed the issue here. most of them think addressing the mental health issue in addition to violence and video games are also part of it. there's a lot to debate but i think we have to be very careful that we don't blame one party or the other if we're really going to have a sane, thoughtful and helpful discussion to try to prevent things like this in the future. >> what do you think needs to be done? >> i think right now we have puic onio ve munur side and i think that's because of the frequency of the shooting we've seen. there is representative gabby giffords last year, the movie theater. now we're in to kindergarten classrooms. >> two multiple shootings since the newtown shooting. >> there has. but we also should go back to the second amend
try to use the emotion of the nation right now to address it. i will tell you i'm encouraged by some of the pollin i'veeen on this, the american public seems to be taking a very hard look at it you, saying, you what, we should maybe have stricter gun laws but one says only about 28% thought that would have fixed the issue here. most of them think addressing the mental health issue in addition to violence and video games are also part of it. there's a lot to debate but i think we have to be very...
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we have some builtup immune system for us. but familitamiflu was, two weekd older, in cases of children only works if you take it in the first 48 hours of symptoms and that's very important. anything more than that, it's not going to work and also, there are some concerns about the side effects. there were-- i looked up in the british system, side effects are higher than the benefits. we don't think that's the case. most of the side effects in kids are usually vomiting so you really want to run that by your doctor. >> and do you think that's the flu though? how do you know with a child, whether it's a cold or a flu and you wouldn't give tamiflu without asking a physician, how would a doctor diagnose the difference? >> by prescription, number one, and most of the flu mostly body aches, sore throat and rainy nose. vomiting is usually not in the first series of symptoms and have to run it by your doctor. the big thing is that tamiflu for children like this is weight dependent and also just three milligrams per kilogram. make sure
we have some builtup immune system for us. but familitamiflu was, two weekd older, in cases of children only works if you take it in the first 48 hours of symptoms and that's very important. anything more than that, it's not going to work and also, there are some concerns about the side effects. there were-- i looked up in the british system, side effects are higher than the benefits. we don't think that's the case. most of the side effects in kids are usually vomiting so you really want to run...
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he was talking about the influence of grammar that the government was using over him. you are talking about people living in a different world and they are not responsible. i believe in the s&p defense and on the grounds of acquittal by and sanity. daniel patrick moynihan, great american center and public servant had a simple suggestion. tax the magazines, tax the bullets, attacks the ammunitions. i do not care how many guns they have. if they cannot fire them, they will not kill people. >> state department takes a big hit on benghazi. >> the state department had not given benghazi the security, both physical and personal resources it needed. >> former ambassador thomas pickering, the chairman of the accountability review board that investigated the attack, the board report has resulted in three resignations so far, but i guarantee that is not the end of this debate. >> it is not, but i feel like -- when somebody is going down the street and they cut someone off. the other guy is furious and the errant drivers says you are right here that is what happened this week. th
he was talking about the influence of grammar that the government was using over him. you are talking about people living in a different world and they are not responsible. i believe in the s&p defense and on the grounds of acquittal by and sanity. daniel patrick moynihan, great american center and public servant had a simple suggestion. tax the magazines, tax the bullets, attacks the ammunitions. i do not care how many guns they have. if they cannot fire them, they will not kill people....
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there used to. say well you know ultimately watching ourselves it isn't on the surface but you know her it's. placed on some part of you is a. terrorist attack like nine eleven a constitutional point and there's still this obsessive fear the united states. and we think not we want to turn that around in this aeration of the rule of law especially you know most notably the national defense authorization act which eradicates due process and our basic fundamental freedom in this country that. i want to also bring about. me in the in the film series which was the kamikaze pilots who you know they were brave they were considered it was the bravest act that you could do and then it just i can't help but think of suicide bombers today and you know bill maher he goes out and loses his chauffeur saying these people are brave and you have people like ron paul get up there and talk about blowback as a reality and he's he's ridiculed i mean how do we get here where the discourse is just so time down or we can't
there used to. say well you know ultimately watching ourselves it isn't on the surface but you know her it's. placed on some part of you is a. terrorist attack like nine eleven a constitutional point and there's still this obsessive fear the united states. and we think not we want to turn that around in this aeration of the rule of law especially you know most notably the national defense authorization act which eradicates due process and our basic fundamental freedom in this country that. i...
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when i was at the institute, we used to bring bravo to work with us. he used to come to the office where i was the cia director. bravo sat in on almost all of the meetings involving the operations against bin laden. to this day he has not told a damn soul on what happened. [laughter] [applause] >> thank you for coming today. i would also like to thank the national press club staff for organizing today's event. you can find more information about the national press club on our website. if you would like a copy today's event, please check our website at press.org. thank you. we are adjourned. >> if you worked for him, you would get a mercurial, sometimes a generous, sometimes over- bearing, sometimes cool boss -- rule boss, and he did not know how to apologize, which given his age and class, he had a way of turning the tables. his version of an apology would be to say you are doing a very good job today. the issue was never settled. he always had to get the last word in. one night, going through white hall, a german bomb fell, and he should not have been
when i was at the institute, we used to bring bravo to work with us. he used to come to the office where i was the cia director. bravo sat in on almost all of the meetings involving the operations against bin laden. to this day he has not told a damn soul on what happened. [laughter] [applause] >> thank you for coming today. i would also like to thank the national press club staff for organizing today's event. you can find more information about the national press club on our website. if...
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ann rubin tells us what parents in the bay area think about. >> armed guard in every school. that is what the nra believes will help stop future shooting tragedies. those that study gun violence say they are not sure. >> there is no dataa on what the effect would be. >> reporter: for many schools this is already reality. oakland, san francisco, san jose unified have armed police at schools. so, does the west contra costa unified school district and members say it appears to make a difference. >> i would say it is a mixed feeling. but, the perception is in the community to have none. >> it is monthat he could be spent on educational programs. >> we have taken this approach t. it comes at a cost. it comes at a steep cost when you talk about loss of supporting proms for music, the arts. >> reporter: and parents are not sure it is a price they want to pay. so far the proposal to have armed guards everywhere is met with mixed reviews. >> my position is no guns for everybody. >> the guns are not the issue it is our people who are having the problems. >> putting people with guns aro
ann rubin tells us what parents in the bay area think about. >> armed guard in every school. that is what the nra believes will help stop future shooting tragedies. those that study gun violence say they are not sure. >> there is no dataa on what the effect would be. >> reporter: for many schools this is already reality. oakland, san francisco, san jose unified have armed police at schools. so, does the west contra costa unified school district and members say it appears to...
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i know that many of us have questions. as the way into the microphone comes to you identify yourself. >> yes. we hear a lot about tribal militias wreaking unpredictable havoc here and there and making things very and predictable and messy. can you comment on that. >> well, the militias are certainly making things complicated and messy. that is sure. essentially the revolution was one in pockets. each region basically has its own militia. many regions have their own -- of course our region is usually tied to a trouble identity which then can be used as a trigger for conflict with neighboring tribal identity. for example, very much in the news, the coastal town in the center of the coast there suffered shelling, relentless shelling by loyalist forces for many weeks. that created a tremendous degree of resentment and essentially this is now a conflict, renewed conflict between the militias and the town which is a a loyalist stronghold. those kinds of tensions can easily -- the fear is that they will spread to other areas. the
i know that many of us have questions. as the way into the microphone comes to you identify yourself. >> yes. we hear a lot about tribal militias wreaking unpredictable havoc here and there and making things very and predictable and messy. can you comment on that. >> well, the militias are certainly making things complicated and messy. that is sure. essentially the revolution was one in pockets. each region basically has its own militia. many regions have their own -- of course our...
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surely the financial crisis is now upon us. >> that is absolutely true. he said actually american people understand the need for compromise, doing a deal on all sorts of things in life. he said that their elected representatives do not follow the same pattern of behavior and should start doing that. he is conceding that america currently has a dysfunctional political system in washington, and it is taking it to the edge of the fiscal cliff with all the consequences that we know will follow. the consequences are being revealed in the reaction of the markets here in america and in europe. people know the recession could follow if they do not do a deal, and that is why he is trying to get one. >> thank you very much for joining us. there is still no deal yet, but as the economic crisis has shown, 2012 will not be known as the year of political unity in washington. it may come as a surprise, but some of the nation's leaders have been immortalized in a work of art. "the network" is a video installation done by an artist. i went to the national portrait gallery
surely the financial crisis is now upon us. >> that is absolutely true. he said actually american people understand the need for compromise, doing a deal on all sorts of things in life. he said that their elected representatives do not follow the same pattern of behavior and should start doing that. he is conceding that america currently has a dysfunctional political system in washington, and it is taking it to the edge of the fiscal cliff with all the consequences that we know will...
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it's useful to talk about common sense, it's useful to talk about results, it's useful to talk about conservative impulse. but abstractions i would steer away from. >> host: you also michael oak shot, also sounds very much like michael oakshot. >> guest: yeah, a lot of quite good people have taken that position. and i must say i owe the fact that i take it not to my own thought, but to theirs. >> host: are there, are there other things about the book that you would want to call the audience's attention to that i have failed to ask of you? >> guest: well, the martinis articles, i think, are crucial to western civilization. >> host: so i also enjoyed the agatha agatha christie article. this is not just a book of, you know, an awful lot of ideas and philosophy law in it, but there's some charming pieces at the end, and the appreciations of, true appreciations of professor bickel who we've talked about and edward levy. >> guest: yeah, ed levy was the first professor i had in law school, and then he became dean of the law school, then he became provost and president of the university, and
it's useful to talk about common sense, it's useful to talk about results, it's useful to talk about conservative impulse. but abstractions i would steer away from. >> host: you also michael oak shot, also sounds very much like michael oakshot. >> guest: yeah, a lot of quite good people have taken that position. and i must say i owe the fact that i take it not to my own thought, but to theirs. >> host: are there, are there other things about the book that you would want to...
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the men who attacked the people here use guns and machetes to kill and maim. among the dead and injured are women and children. the people of the village belong to seminomadic people who roam the land with their farm. each side claiming water and grazing fields in the territory belong to them. >> i believe this is a time to blame them. we need teamwork so that we can be able to help ours from this fighting that we're in. >> the region could be one of the most valuable untapped agricultural areas in the country. but kenya just months away from an election. experts say this is about power and money. >> it is really about politics and the forthcoming election. and it's about numbers. you have a grouping in which the community and the fight or the struggle or the contest for and political dominance as far as the next elections are concerned. >> what happened on friday is all too similar in villages in august and september. more than 100 people were killed and thousands were forced to leave their homes. it was the worst fighting since the election five years ago. p
the men who attacked the people here use guns and machetes to kill and maim. among the dead and injured are women and children. the people of the village belong to seminomadic people who roam the land with their farm. each side claiming water and grazing fields in the territory belong to them. >> i believe this is a time to blame them. we need teamwork so that we can be able to help ours from this fighting that we're in. >> the region could be one of the most valuable untapped...
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in doing so, they gave us all a mandate. it was not a mandate to raise taxes on families and small businesses. it was a mandate for us to work together to begin solving the massive debt that threatens our country's future. unfortunately, the president and senate democrats vowed to reject and vetoed all of our proposals while failing to offer responsible solutions of their own. >> the chance for any deal may now be up to the democratally controlled senate since the speaker's plan to allow taxes to be raised for millionaires have gone down. >>> the first lady and president will attend the funeral for senator daniel inouye. >>> massachusetts voters faced another race since john kerry is now the official nominee for secretary of state. the state will have to hold a third senate election since 2010, if he is confirmed. steve doocy has more. >> reporter: a week after u.n. ambassador susan rice says not to nominate her for secretary of state because the nomination process may be too tough, divisive. >> in a sense, john's entire lif
in doing so, they gave us all a mandate. it was not a mandate to raise taxes on families and small businesses. it was a mandate for us to work together to begin solving the massive debt that threatens our country's future. unfortunately, the president and senate democrats vowed to reject and vetoed all of our proposals while failing to offer responsible solutions of their own. >> the chance for any deal may now be up to the democratally controlled senate since the speaker's plan to allow...
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today. >> if that is what they are using for god's sakes why don't they use dynamite. make it easier. what's the sport? >> reporter: the position a lot of people will say is all you will accomplish is taking guns from the good people and the bad people will still -- >> that's not true. the statistics say if you have a gun at home you are 22 times as likely to shoot a family member or friend as to somebody breaking in. don't try to go for a gun. somebody pointing a gun at you, you think you are going to outshoot them, that is one of the stupidest things i have ever heard. >> reporter: some say that is easy for a man to say who has 24-hour police protection. >> when i come in to interview you, i have to go through metal detectors and men out there with guns to make sure you are safe. there are a lot of people who say let's make our kids safe in the same way. barbara boxer said the national guard should be deployed. >> to where. >> to schools across the country. >> that's ridiculous. you can't live your life that way. you would be in a prison. >> reporter: after a decade
today. >> if that is what they are using for god's sakes why don't they use dynamite. make it easier. what's the sport? >> reporter: the position a lot of people will say is all you will accomplish is taking guns from the good people and the bad people will still -- >> that's not true. the statistics say if you have a gun at home you are 22 times as likely to shoot a family member or friend as to somebody breaking in. don't try to go for a gun. somebody pointing a gun at you,...
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. >> join us tomorrow from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. eastern. and we will be joined by tennessee republican congresswoman blackburn and congressman cohen. and be sure to catch "meet the press." check the local listings for that time. until then, have a very great saturday afternoon.
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allen lichtman joins us. the board did not blame the secretary but made clear there were problems high up at the state department. pretty damning. what's the impact on secretary clinton? >> pretty damning. to paraphrase harry truman, when you lead an organization like this in government, you're riding the tiger. well, the tiger didn't quite devour her but it took quite a bite out of her. can she recover before 2016? absolutely yes. this is not chap quick dick where the blame for a death seemed to fall squarely on senator kennedy. and really he never could recover from that. here the blame is spread far and wide. the commission did not pinpoint hillary clinton, and of course, the blame also falls on members of congress who have been very liberal about making appropriations for war but very stingy about making appropriations for diplomacy and the department of state. >> she's been such a stellar secretary of state in so many ways. the travel that she does, the connections she makes, the heft that she brings to
allen lichtman joins us. the board did not blame the secretary but made clear there were problems high up at the state department. pretty damning. what's the impact on secretary clinton? >> pretty damning. to paraphrase harry truman, when you lead an organization like this in government, you're riding the tiger. well, the tiger didn't quite devour her but it took quite a bite out of her. can she recover before 2016? absolutely yes. this is not chap quick dick where the blame for a death...
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john fund, judith miller, stephen hayes, joins us stephen hayes, joins us next. you know how painful hetburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] oh what fun it is to ride. get the mercedes-benz on your wish list at the winter event going on now through december 31st. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] lease a 2013 e350 for $579 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. lou: aot to talk about with "the a-team." "the american spectator" senior editor, john fund joins us. pulitizer prize winning junenalists fox news contributor, judith miller. stephen hayes, "weekly standard", fox news contributor. thanks for being here. let's begin with john kerry. are you excited about the presumptive secretary of state? >> i think he was made for this job. if you can't be president i think john kerry wanted to be secretary of state. he want
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thank you for being with us. great to have you with this. much more on that nomination and an unsettled, to put it mildly, middle east with the "a-team." ♪ that has been one week since the elementary school massacre in connecticut. the national rifle association talks to just a start today with proposals to make schoo safer. james rose in with a livereport . the fiscal cliff fallback plan fails. mr. president of europe. it's your turn to lead. >> the president and congress take action, tax rates will go up on every american taxpayer and devastating defense cuts will go into effect in ten days. how we get their god only knows. lou: chief economist joining us with perspectives on what is next for the markets, the ♪ any tree on this lot is on m i'm the messenger, by the way. what's your name? joanne. with the hundreds that i save with progressive on my car insurance, this tree is on me. no way. way. this tree is on me. really?! yes. aah! let me just trim it up a little bit for you. [ buzzing ] thank you. saving's greetings. you guys are gon
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thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show." tonight from minneapolis, the republican party is in ruins. maybe we can actually get a deal now. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> call me a hopeless optimist, but i actually still think we can get it done. >> president obama is doing everything he can to avert a fiscal cliff disaster for the middle class. the republican implosion gives democrats even more leverage in the fiscal cliff negotiations. i'll ask dnc chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz, will this latest move by the president be enough? >>> revolting, tone-deaf, disastrous. the nra blames everything but guns for gun violence in america including 20-year-old video games, and they reverse an opportunity to heal the country for a commercial for more guns. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> congressman jim moran and reverend jesse jackson react to today's circus. >> th
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share your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using the #edshow. we're coming right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." on a day when a community laid more victims to rest, on a day when a nation stopped just briefly to honor the dead, the national rifle association came out swinging, defiant, paranoid, and utterly tone-deaf. >> this is the beginning of a serious conversation. we won't be taking questions. >> but nra president david keene was just the warm-up act for the gun lobby's number one defender, wayne lapierre. wayne lapierre offered up a televised sales pitch to america, making the case to expand the gun market by demanding more guns in schools. >> with all the foreign aid the united states does, with all the money in the federal budget, can't we afford to put a police officer in every single school? i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> lapierre failed to mention there were two armed security officers on duty at columbine
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the actors were used to it. when we were auditioning, tom would be doing this all the way through, so they knew. >> they get used to it. >> sort of they were oblivious to it. i think -- that was over months of auditioning and then rehearsal and everything like that. so it wasn'ted the shock as if they would have gone in cold. you can really almost get into the heart and mind of the actor and that's a wonderful plus. and the other great advantage of the film is we only have 28 actors amazing actors playing 300 parts on the stage. but in the film of course we have everyone that should be in each scene. so you're able to put actors in many other scenes which allows do you tell the story in far more detail and that's why we were -- a lot of people know the show are like oh, my god, i really understand now. >> up next more on "les mis" and the big screen. our conversation with cameron mackintosh continues on "cbs this morning saturday." it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter r
the actors were used to it. when we were auditioning, tom would be doing this all the way through, so they knew. >> they get used to it. >> sort of they were oblivious to it. i think -- that was over months of auditioning and then rehearsal and everything like that. so it wasn'ted the shock as if they would have gone in cold. you can really almost get into the heart and mind of the actor and that's a wonderful plus. and the other great advantage of the film is we only have 28 actors...
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. >> i want to thank all of you for joining us and have a very merry christmas and is david asbin our gift to you on forbes on fox. a holy war over the health care of the law. little sisters may be bolting out of the united states because of the the new law is forcing them to provide insurance can contraception and if they don't get exceptions, they will have to pony up big fines. welcome to forbes on fox and we'll go with steve forbes and rick unger and elizabeth mcdonald and victoria and steve and rich. >> what do you think? >> jobs are going to be destroid even if they don't go overseas. health care costs are going up. obama care is increasing alert . insurers have to take all comers and that will put a strain on it and mandates, consumers may not want them and politicians say you must have them and insurance costs are going up and we the people will be losers. >>> and the hobby lobby face a fine 1. 5 million if they don't do what the government said they have to do via the health care law. >> i was corrected. 1.3 million a day. that is the daily fine they have to pay. >> let's mak
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i hate to use a sound bite like that. what they then say is we need more guns like our guest just said, that's the world we live in. no, we live in the world where everyone around the country has mentally deranged people, violent movie games, violent music as we do, and yet they don't have the number of guns we have and strike ily, oddly enough they don't have the same gun violence that we do. i don't know why that point escapes wayne lapierre. >> mr. siebolt, i'm confused. i expected the nra to embrace universe at background checks. i thought nra might get out in front of the ban on military assault rifles. i don't think that message played so well which is what david is saying in middle america. >> the problem not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation as we should be. not guns. they don't massacre a bunch of people. >> what i i'm trying to say is the mentally ill have free access to our weapon. "the new york times" had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the fbi's record-keeping per
i hate to use a sound bite like that. what they then say is we need more guns like our guest just said, that's the world we live in. no, we live in the world where everyone around the country has mentally deranged people, violent movie games, violent music as we do, and yet they don't have the number of guns we have and strike ily, oddly enough they don't have the same gun violence that we do. i don't know why that point escapes wayne lapierre. >> mr. siebolt, i'm confused. i expected the...
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but the very least, let us agree right now on what we already agree on. let us get that done. i just spoke to speaker boehner and met with senator reid. i have asked congress to work on a package that prevents a tax hike on middle-class americans, protect unemployment insurance for 2 million americans, and lays the groundwork for further work on growth and deficit reduction. that is an achievable goal. that can get done in 10 days. once this legislation is agreed to, i expect democrats and republicans to get back to washington and have it passed both chambers. i will immediately signed it into law before january 1 of next year. averting this tax hike is not a democratic or republican responsibility. with their votes, the american people have determined that governing is a shared responsibility between both parties. in this congress, laws can only pass with support from democrats and republicans. and that means nobody gets 100% of what they want. everybody has to give a little bit in a sensible way. we move forward together, or we do not move forward and all. so, as we leave to
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joining us now the districtor jordan sekolow. thanks for joining us. thanks for having me, uma. >> we'll t about the pastor who is held there simply by the fact that he's a christian. >> he's 32 years old and in the worst prison and and since picked up in july on the iranian border and his whole family is under house arrest will he's beaten and fortured and a convert fromy islam because of his faith. he made an agreement that he would no longer run the house churches it is since he's been to iran nine times it is it an orfan age. but this time the guard got involved and so he's been interrogated and treated like a national security threat. that is the same kind of a charge that iran tried to levy against the pastor usef. it is death unless you peek out. this is an american citizen. our state department has acknowledged that now why did it take so long for them to acacupon knowledge -- acknowledge he was there. fox news broke the story with the information and we got that attention and people start to ask the state department. it is that decision you ma
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follow us on facebook, poke us, like us, do whatever you want to us. we'll be right back. so, this board gives me rates for progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive. call or click today. >> after it's all over when your insurance rates go down, you'll vote for me in 2016. >> any time someone makes a trip to iowa, people speculate about what you're doing. let me be blunt. i'm not now or never will be a candidate for offensive coordinator for iowa. >> it's way too early to talk about 2016. i think i mentioned i have a warm regard for the people of new hampshire and iowa. >> plenty are already flirting with the 2016 run. but there's one dynasty do-over that dominates. let bring back the gaggle. i look at this and say it's bush, it's clinton, it's for all the marbles. it's th
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after another calling this the do nothing congress and as our two political correspondent christine for us out discovered this problem is actually getting much much worse. inside the chambers of this powerful dome some of the most important laws of the land have been drawn up debated and eventually etched into the framework of american history by our example the hospice and the measure the civil rights act of one nine hundred sixty he signed at the white house by president johnson but these days the chambers often look like this. that's because in the two years the one hundred twelfth congress has been in session they've been to work in washington less than a third of the time here's a breakdown according to the library of congress is thomas dot gov the u.s. house of representatives spent just one hundred seventy five days in session last year just one hundred thirty days this year the senate this year also did legislative work just over one hundred days the entire year according to many members that's because they're busy working back in their districts when i go home . go home to work. g
after another calling this the do nothing congress and as our two political correspondent christine for us out discovered this problem is actually getting much much worse. inside the chambers of this powerful dome some of the most important laws of the land have been drawn up debated and eventually etched into the framework of american history by our example the hospice and the measure the civil rights act of one nine hundred sixty he signed at the white house by president johnson but these...
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those of us who were fortunate enough not to lose people close, close, close to us, have been putting together -- just trying to feed people, trying to make sure there's some sort of infrastructure for when -- in particular, i'm involved with newtown united, a group trying to put together essentially an advocacy infrastructure for when they want to talk. they want to move the conversation. the national conversation to where i think a majority of people in america want it to go, on all matters related to gun violence. it's going to be there for them. and there's so many things like that that are happening, whether it's a memorial for the children and the educators, all that's going to happen. this community is going to rally around and support these people in any direction that they want us to go. >> and outside the community too. lots of support. robert cox writes for reuters "breaking views," and he's also a newtowner. >>> "outfront," next, student who survived a mass shooting in minnesota seven years ago drive to newtown, connecticut, to be with the sandy hook survivors. we'll tell
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in the speech the judges will not even let us attend the u.s. trials as observers at a time when the adoption rate in russia itself is low the situation around us adoption seems even more dire the u.s. accounts for around this third of all goring adoptions in russia and there are hundreds of successful cases each year but the latest development has doubt over whether that good word can continue the argument that if there's the flight is chance for an orphan to find a happy home they should be given that chance is on doubted but just as indisputable seem to be or given that there has to be more oversight over the well being of these children because with the way things are now dozens of adoptive children could be subject to abuse right at this moment and we may never find out in washington i'm going to check on. well greek banks are now lining up for a bailout of their own athens and dive back schemes brings the country's biggest banks to their knees and left was no choice but to bag for another rescue. and rock obama makes his pick for the next
in the speech the judges will not even let us attend the u.s. trials as observers at a time when the adoption rate in russia itself is low the situation around us adoption seems even more dire the u.s. accounts for around this third of all goring adoptions in russia and there are hundreds of successful cases each year but the latest development has doubt over whether that good word can continue the argument that if there's the flight is chance for an orphan to find a happy home they should be...
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again end up in the water with your friends and family too don't blame us for international news here not in just a couple of minutes time. tucked in between the russian mainland japan and the suckling island is the island of minute on named after a french seafarer who discovered it it is described as the pride of the sakhalin region we'll take a look what's in store for us here. until two thousand and four the island was part of the borders own and was completely restricted too busy to know the speech rest place is open to tourists plants and animals are its top attraction. really has been exploring the deaths of the world seas for several decades but it's here at more your own island where he has finally found what he'd been looking for . the water here is very clear the visibility is very good and the underwater world here is extremely rich i've been to many diving locations across the planet including the island of bali but mine are on top of my list while some go to the sakhalin region to enjoy the sights others convert the island's nature's riches into a healthy dollar it is hom
again end up in the water with your friends and family too don't blame us for international news here not in just a couple of minutes time. tucked in between the russian mainland japan and the suckling island is the island of minute on named after a french seafarer who discovered it it is described as the pride of the sakhalin region we'll take a look what's in store for us here. until two thousand and four the island was part of the borders own and was completely restricted too busy to know...
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frame for us the significance of that fight. what is actually going on that we should have cared about? >> the senate had passed the amendment to abolish slavery the year, the spring before. and the house had defeated it, the republicans had a majority but not a supermajority. and you need two-thirds of the house and the senate to pass a constitutional amendment. so lincoln made this decision. he didn't do it hugely, publicly, although he let it be known that the administration was behind this surprising introduction of this failed bill to amend the constitution back into the house. and he and seward concocted a campaign of offering jobs to convince 20 lame duck democrats to vote. and it passed by two votes. i think the importance for lincoln was the sense that he had, you know, and he said it in 1858, a house divided against, you know, we can't exist half slave and half free. i think that lincoln felt that the war literally could not come to an end with slavery on the table, that even if that-- civil war stopped the country wou
frame for us the significance of that fight. what is actually going on that we should have cared about? >> the senate had passed the amendment to abolish slavery the year, the spring before. and the house had defeated it, the republicans had a majority but not a supermajority. and you need two-thirds of the house and the senate to pass a constitutional amendment. so lincoln made this decision. he didn't do it hugely, publicly, although he let it be known that the administration was behind...